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Email ArticleThe Applied Finance Group’s (AFG’s) suite of investment tools and research is designed to help investors make more informed investment decisions by helping them understand the performance a company must deliver to justify its current stock price in addition to calculating the firm's intrinsic value. By understanding the embedded expectations a company must deliver to justify its current trading price, clients can develop a “hurdle rate” to quickly determine if the company’s expectations are too rich or too low.
Last week, AFG released its monthly stock market review which discussed the embedded expectations of the entire S&P 500 using the Value Expectations Interface. we concuded that the overall index is slightly undervalued, but trading pretty close to fairly valued.
Using AFG’s Value Expectations Interface and Intrinsic Value Chart, we will provide a company example of each of the following scenarios: A) a company with an unattractive default intrinsic value and high expectations for sales growth B) a company with an attractive default intrinsic value and low expectations for sales growth.
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The company we will use as example A, Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:AAPL), is a great company but not necessarily a great investment as it has an unattractive default valuation rank and high expectations for sales growth to justify its current price of $215. Assuming EBITDA margins and Asset Turns remain constant AAPL would have to grow sales by over 20% ($36 billion to $92 billion) each year for the next 5 years to justify its current price.


VE Insight
Assuming EBITDA margins and Asset Turns remain constant
AAPL would have to grow annual sales from $36 billion to $92 billion
over the next 5 years to justify current price
Company B is Hewlett-Packard Co. (NYSE:HPQ), a company that looks attractive from a valuation standpoint as it is currently trading below its default AFG intrinsic value and appears to have very realistic sales growth expectations embedded into its current stock price. HPQ has 1.8% sales growth currently priced-in to its current share price meaning it must grow sales from $114 billion to $125 billion over the next 5 years to justify its $52 share price, assuming EBITDA margins and Asset Turns remain constant.


VE Insight
Assuming EBITDA margins and Asset Turns remain constant
HPQ would have to grow annual sales from $114 billion to $125 billion
over the next 5 years to justify current price
The question investor’s must ask themselves is which of these 2 risk/return scenarios are you willing to take on in their client’s portfolio.
AFG’s valuation techniques and understanding of expectations “built-in” to stock prices are just a couple ways that AFG helps investors make more informed stock selection decisions. If you are a professional investor and would like to see if you qualify for a free trial of AFG’s research and suite of investment tools click here and an AFG Representative will contact you.
If you are not a professional investor Sign Up for ValueExpectations.com here to learn more about our stock selection process and potentially attractive investment opportunities.
AFG’s Intrinsic Value Chart:
• Identifies entry/exit points
• Shows how well AFG has tracked the company (accuracy)
• Displays the trading range of the company each year through time (blue bars)
• Displays the end of year closing price (dash on blue bar)
• Displays AFG’s default intrinsic value (red dotted line)
How to Read this chart:
• The Blue Bars represent the high and low trading range for a stock for each calendar year.
• The red dotted line represents Applied Finance Group’s (AFG’s) historical Intrinsic Value through time.
• When the red line (Intrinsic Value) is above the blue bars (trading range) the company looks to be undervalued.
• When the red line (Intrinsic Value) is below the blue bars (trading range) the company looks to be overvalued.

What Is The Value Expectations Interface?
AFG’s Value Expectations interface provides clients a platform to better understand economic profitability, and at the same time understand the performance a company must deliver to justify its current stock price. By understanding the embedded expectations a company must deliver to justify their current trading price, clients can develop a “hurdle rate” to quickly determine if the company’s expectations are rich or low. Take, for example, the typical company during the tech bubble: the expectations that were priced into the average tech stock far exceeded what it could realistically deliver. For this reason, AFG identified the technology sector as overvalued, as well as potential torpedoes such as Cisco, whose expectations were unrealistically high.
After determining if a company is a valid investment opportunity, users have the flexibility to adjust expectations based on their own research, build out pro-forma financial scenarios, and arrive at an NPV target price.
In addition, the VE interface has all the key theoretical components of a well-thought-out valuation model, which takes into consideration the appropriate risk, with a market derived discount rate (MDDR) that is adjusted for size and leverage. Competition and perpetuity issues are also taken into account, using company specific Competitive Advantage Periods (CAP).
By gaining a better understanding of the embedded expectations built in to security prices, relative to what a company has delivered historically, can provide insight into the Sales Growth, EBITDA Margin, and Asset Turnover a company must deliver in the future to justify its current trading price. In many circumstances, if the imbedded future performance is very conservative relative to the company’s historical performance, the stock is regarded as undervalued.
Value Expectations Interface allows investors to:
• Understand the performance expectations embedded into today’s stock prices.
• Build out Different Pro forma Financial Scenarios
• Determine NPV target price based on the users assumptions.
• Quickly determine if a company is over/under valued
• Benchmark valuation attractiveness against peer groups
• Efficiently Identify investment opportunities or potential torpedo’s
To stay updated on companies AFG believes are attractive investment opportunities register for ValueExpectations.com It's Fast and Free!
$15 EPS in 5 years? Is that all?
If this tool (pun intended) considers that steep, then it clearly knows nothing about Apple's business. Not only will Apple easily earn $15, it will do it two years ahead of what the tool is asking for.
"See you at an overvalued
"See you at an overvalued $300 for Apple."
Hahaha, I couldn't Agree more. Whether or not investors are paying up too much or not, its a story of multiple expansion. Once a company actually achieves growth rates of upwards of 30%, investors are willing to pay much more and their P/E multiples increase. I'll gladly ride the wave of hype to $300...
Not to mention Apple's story is beyond consumer technology now, it's acquisition of Quattro means its going to find a way into mobile internet advertising through its massive selection of apps.
Same thing as Amazon, at $95 in October, this analysis would have showed Amazon as overvalued but then you would have missed the jump to $130+ after the earnings report..
All in all, it is a good tool though. The more information you have, the better you're off making your investment decisions.
Basic Statistics
One of the basics of statistical analysis is "Beware of logarithmic scales." Your logarithmic vertical axis hides Apples spectacular growth history very well, making it look to be in the same universe as that of HP and Sprint, when it is not. The fact is that for the last 7 years Apple has beaten your "unattainable" goal of a sustained 20% annual growth in sales. There is no reason to assume that it will not continue to do so for another 5 years. With only about 10% market share in most of its major sales categories there is plenty of room to do so for the next 20 years. With Apple's record of innovation there is no reason to believe it won't. Is Apple suddenly going to become stupid? Is Microsoft somehow going to become smart or develop a sense of taste and propriety? Can Dell make up losses on every unit by further cutting prices to increase unit sales?
Your chart does identify good investments. They are the ones with the least attractive default valuations. It's your interpretation that misses the mark widely.
Good point but unrealistic
Good Point: "Apple's record of innovation there is no reason to believe it won't. Is Apple suddenly going to become stupid?" But in my opinion 20% annual sales growth leading to over 90 billion of annually is not realistic for them to achieve. MSFT had 50 billion last year; I doubt that apple will be close to doubling that number. Apple might not become stupid, but I won’t be stupid to assume they will be geniuses forever without some fierce competition in the future
Microsoft
Microsoft had $50B last year, yes. Microsoft is a software company, and they had a bad year last year. Apple is a software/hardware company with 90% of the market left to conquer. That 90% is occupied by a rotting corpse that hasn't yet noticed that it's dead (Microsoft/Windows). Windows cannot be saved. It's broken, and attempts to fix it only make it worse. Microsoft has no engineering direction. The sales departmetn is running the company and their solution to every issue is a good story. Apple's moat is OS X. In order to defeat Apple's moat, somebody will have to come up with a replacement for Windows. That will be a 5 year process that won't begin until Microsoft admits defeat with Windows. As long as Ballmer is CEO there will be no such admission, only statements like, "I like our strategy. I like it a lot." I think Apple has about 10 more years behind its protective moat (OS X). During that time it will continue to gain in popularity as more and more people discover that computing doesn't have to be an exercise in frustration. That has been and will continue to be a parabolic curve.
You're an idiot
Apple fanboy - you're an idiot. Windows is the most popular OS and will continue to be in the future, yet you want the CEO of the company owning the most popular OS to say his OS is dead... not a smart business decision, lol. Mac bundles their hardware with their OS, which is why it will always be second to Windows. If Windows only supported one set of hardware than you would be bashing Microsoft for this but you're so gone in your Apple fanboy delusions that you don't see it. So again... you're an idiot, enough said.
new investors are just late for the show
People are just in love with this stock/product and will pay a premium... but I think at today’s price, new investors are just late for the show
yea i really hate those
yea i really hate those global companies that don't borrow money and have a stockpile of cash. they're such a bad investment. maybe i'll move all my money to aig
GAAP or Non-GAAP
Which earnings did you use? By any measure, AAPL is over-value if you look at the GAAP earnings numbers and growth. But if you look at non-GAAP, you see a much different picture (much higher earnings and growth). As AAPL will soon switch to reporting their non-GAAP as GAAP (because of the recent change in the rules), nobody should really be looking at the under-reported current GAAP numbers.
yawwwwwn
yawwwwwn
You should have also done Google and Amazon
as a comparison to Apple. You'll probably find the hottest stocks as being overvalued. Apple is going to eat into Kindle potential market share and Google is going to lose ad revenue if Apple decides to put Bing on its mobile browser before starting its own search engine.
See you at an overvalued $300 for Apple.
Bernie Madoff would have loved this tool
Apple is performing very well for such a bearish economy and reports huge quarter gains one after the other. The company is innovative and diversified in it's sales line (Mac computers, sales up 74% in October Nov) (Online apps, they own 94% of that market) (music sales, they are the 4th largest music distributor in the US) You can't assume that all companies make the same widgets and will continue to make the same widgets. May as well listen to Jim Cramer bang his gong while spouting his , at least you are entertained while you get his BS advice.
FUD
FUD